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Football Quick Hits/Footnotes - Practice 11 (4/5)

USC was in full pads today. Here's a rundown of the news:

LB Jordan Iosefa will miss the remainder of spring practice as he will undergo a minor knee surgery. Clay Helton said he had a dislocated a kneecap and tore some cartilage. His estimated rehab is 3-4 weeks, which should make him available for the beginning of summer workouts (June 1).

Kana'i Mauga has taken the majority of first-team reps in Iosefa's place. I got some great insight on him, Talanoa Hufanga and several others on defense during a 15-minute interview from Clancy Pendergast. (We'll post the full transcript later.)

QBs coach Bryan Ellis was absent to be with his wife -- they are expecting their first child. Helton filled in as the QBs coach.

C Brett Neilon (ankle), DT Brandon Pili (ankle) and CB Je'Quari Godfrey (hamstring) remained out. WR Michael Pittman (shoulder) also did not practice. WR Josh Imatorbhebhe (head) wore a non-contact jersey. WR Keyshawn Young did not finish practice with an undisclosed injury.

OT Chuma Edoga returned after being limited by back pain Tuesday.

CB Jonathan Lockett worked with the first team. We've seen a few different guys claim the reps vacated by Jack Jones and Lockett has arguably been the best.

1-on-1s (OL vs. DL)
Mauga beats Erik Krommenhoek
Jordan Austin stops Jay Tufele
Liam Jimmons beats Jacob Daniel
Porter Gustin and Chuma Edoga draw even
Caleb Tremblay beats Andrew Vorhees
Tufele beats Justin Dedich
Chris Brown stops Connor Murphy
Clayton Johnston stops Hunter Echols
Mauga beats Krommenhoek
Gustin beats Jalen McKenzie
Tremblay beats Alijah Vera-Tucker
Austin stops Tufele
Murphy beats Daniel
Frank Martin stops Juliano Falaniko

*Something I've been meaning to note is that I believe we're seeing more full sets of O-linemen and D-linemen go head-to-head during individual drill work.

Impressions from 11-on-11:
It was another so-so day for the QBs. The more notable moments involved Matt Fink. He was picked off by Marvell Tell in the early period on a deep throw to Tyler Vaughns. The final period began with him getting sacked, by Mauga and another defender. He then rolled out, sprinting away from Gustin, and hit Josh Falo on the backside for a TD. Beautiful execution here.

Then Fink really ran into trouble.

He was stripped by John Houston, who also recovered the ball. His next two throws fell incomplete, though one was dropped by Imatorbhebhe near the sideline. It's the type of play Tee Martin alluded to on Tuesday that Imatorbhebhe needs to make at this point. Fink then rolled right and tried the same pass to his left that he hit Falo on but Gustin sniffed it out and batted it high in the air, giving Tufele enough time to run under it for the INT. The big man returned it for a long pick-six, inciting a celebration from the entire defense (and a few choice words from Edoga). Good times. Fink concluded his series with an incomplete pass out of the back of the end zone.

The only notable play that I recorded from this period involving Sears was a play-action roll-out to Krommenhoek for a short TD. Great sell by Sears. In 7-on-7, Biggie Marshall broke up his deep ball to Imatorbhebhe. Later, Vaughns beat Isaiah Langley on a 50-50 ball down the sideline. Langley made it hard for Vaughns, who positioned himself well to haul it in without stepping out of bounds while making a tumbling catch. I'm not certain that Vaughns got that first foot in but it was a tremendous effort by him nonetheless. By both of them, really. Great throw by Sears, too.

Ykili Ross also broke up a pass to Imatorbhebhe, who is still learning how to use his body before the catch. He's a monster after it. Levi Jones then tackled Krommehoek for a loss following a short pass that seemed doomed to fail. The offense is having a tough time moving the ball of late.

Vavae Malepeai continues to look really good running around, which is promising given that it was a hamstring that limited him for the first half of spring. Those can really linger sometimes. He picked up a first down on a counter.

USC didn't run too much today but outside of the carry above from Malepeai, there wasn't much for the running backs to work with. Aca'Cedric Ware was swarmed in the backfield by a host of defenders, leading to a brief tussle between the offense and defense. DBs coach Ronnie Bradford barked, "stupid," and he is probably right, but I kind of like the offense and defense not being chummy in practice. It's something that I remember about Carroll's practices. The two sides often practiced with a disdain for one another.

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USC's next practice is Saturday at 10 a.m. (followed by the annual Swim With Mike event) and it might be the realest scrimmage of the spring. Helton said he's going to put the ball down and let them play. They'll have full possessions (with three and four downs to work with) and no coaches on the field. I asked Helton what he wants to see from the quarterbacks with just four practices remaining and his answer was simple: "Just the movement of the ball and the protection of the ball." He added that Saturday's practice will be telling.

As I mentioned earlier, I'll post the full Pendergast transcript once I finish transcribing it. I interviewed Biggie Marshall as well. We also have a new They Said It featuring Michael Pittman, Aca'Cedric Ware and Jack Sears.

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Football Quick Hits/Footnotes - Practice 12 (4/7)

USC held about a 50-play scrimmage Saturday morning. Here were my impressions:

The day mostly belonged to Jack Sears and the offense. It didn't start out that way as Sears, throwing out of his own end zone, was intercepted by Jonathan Lockett for an easy pick-six. Sears skipped his first read inside and hastily threw to the perimeter. I don't know if it was indicative of his supreme confidence in his outside receivers or incomplete handle of the offense. Maybe both. At the same time, Velus Jones was the intended target and didn't run a great route, leaving Sears out to dry to some extent.

Sears would rebound, however. You could even say it was his best day of spring. He hit Velus on about a 85-yard touchdown. As I've mentioned before, Sears wants to work downfield. The problem of late has been succeeding in that endeavor. But his ball placement was really good. He also seemed to have better timing with the receivers, something that I felt was fine early in spring but wasn't quite there the past two weeks. He also hit Vaughns on a short pass for a TD.

It's a bit hard to read where Sears is at right now. I thought he was establishing himself as the team's best option at QB over the first two weeks. But he really struggled the past two weeks, to the point that it started to feel inevitable J.T. Daniels would arrive in fall and, so long as he could competently execute the playbook, win the job within the first month of the season, if not by the season opener. Then today happened, with Sears' playmaking potential on full display. My feeling is he was underperforming the past two weeks and will show over time that he can function at an above-average level. His inconsistency isn't totally shocking given his overall lack of first-team reps in his career. While you never want to overreact to a single practice, it was evident how relieved Helton was about his quarterback situation after today.

"I know it helps me sleep better at night. We needed this day offensively," Helton said. "... It was the best function of the quarterbacks. I thought their field generalship on the day was excellent."

That includes Matt Fink, who wasn't involved in big plays but was efficient and demonstrated that his legs remain a big asset. Speaking of running, Helton made a great point about the play of the offensive line and the running game opening up the pass game. This is hardly a footnote. USC will need to function as a run-first offense, especially early in the season, to be successful. It was encouraging to see both Vavae Malepeai and Aca'Cedric Ware impose their will between the tackles -- the offense as a whole was pretty physical. Malepeai had a huge gain after a sharp cut enabled him to burst through the second level. Ware seemed to wear down the defense with a series of punishing runs. He's a rhythm runner who likely needs to be fed multiple times in a row to be most effective.

Velus was another big winner from the scrimmage. In addition to the touchdown grab, he had another long reception that he would have scored if not for a TD-saving tackle by Talanoa Hufanga (gotta love the freshman's hustle). Velus made a great double-move to free himself for the catch. He later got to the outside on a sweep and ran through a couple defenders and scored again. He can be an X factor for the offense, seeing that he's probably its biggest game-breaker.

"He's the one body type that's kind of different in our offense," Helton said. "You got a kid that truly has 4.4 speed."

I asked Helton in what ways is Velus different from last spring, which was similarly impressive (but ultimately didn't translate to games). Helton theorized that Velus is responding to being pushed to the forefront and being asked to do more in the wake of Deontay Burnett and Steven Mitchell leaving. He said Velus' is showing better retention and not thinking as much; he has better clarity.

Lockett's big play early was merely the latest in an extended stretch of good performance. He probably came into spring as an afterthought for some, but Lockett has always shown up when healthy. He reminds me of Chris Hawkins in that way. A serviceable athlete, Lockett's biggest strength is his mind. He reads quarterbacks and he reads plays. His interception was more proof, as he anticipated a quick slant and deftly stepped in front of the receiver for the turnover. Jack Jones isn't losing his starting job this spring but he could be losing snaps. Moreover, USC is searching for a starter for the season opener against UNLV. Don't be surprised if it's Lockett (a.k.a. Mr. Reliable).

One of the final big moments from the scrimmage was Biggie Marshall stripping Vaughns and scooping up the ball for a touchdown. Biggie, the best tackler among the corners, often stands out in scrimmage settings. The more important development is how he's been practicing on Tuesdays and Thursdays. He's not taking days off. I spoke with him this week and he conceded that his effort wasn't where it needed to be day in and day out last year. We're seeing the best version of him on a more regular basis and I believe it's elevating his teammates.

Final notes:
QBs coach Bryan Ellis was back at practice -- his baby daughter was born at 2:46 a.m. this morning.

OT Austin Jackson did not practice -- Helton didn't say why.

WR Michael Pittman (shoulder) didn't participate in the scrimmage, and DT Brandon Pili (back) and C Brett Neilon (ankle) were limited.

USC's final week of spring practice begins Tuesday. I'll post my standouts from Week 4 later this weekend.

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Captains?

My idea with captains: They need to be older and more veteran. They need to show hard work and loyalty over along period of time. Not sophomore captains. I generally believe that only seniors should be captains or maybe rs juniors. To me, you have earn that title over time and be a long term starter. Second, you need to a good to great player. And third you need to be a good leader.

Not sure which of these guys would be great leaders, but my choices this year would be:

Cam smith, porter gustin, biggie and toa. I cant seem to find any other veteran players on offense that fit the bill. It does not seem like brown or edoga are great leaders. Tell is possibility, but I already named 3 on defense and that seems like enough. Maybe petite on offense, but he is kind of co starter so he does not fit the bill exactly.

Recruiting Catching up with Rivals250 WR Dylan Wright

Hey Guys - was out at the Under Armour camp in Dallas today and had a quick chat with Dylan Wright. He hasn't been able to work for the past few weeks due to a toe injury, and will continue to be out for the next few weeks as well... in the meantime he has been taking a bunch of visits and will be on the move again next weekend with a trip out to Florida State. He was out at Texas last night, but he said that he is going to try and get an official visit in to USC before the spring/summer window closes to do so. Seems like climate is becoming a pretty major factor in his recruitment as he was talking to me in 45-degree weather today and hating that his teeth were chattering the whole time.

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*Happy Rusev Day*

Football They Said It: Gustin, Rector, Udeze, Bradford

LB PORTER GUSTIN
--on if he’s better than he was last year
“There’s no doubt I’m better right now than what I was last year. Just mentally, physically, I think I’ve matured in both areas. I’ve also spent a lot of time in that training room, just working on flexibility and mobility and things like that and I think that has really benefited me a lot.”

--on if the toe or bicep is more of an issue
“Both of them, I’m feeling good right now. I don’t even notice really either. So I think I’m fully healed and I’m just happy. (With the toe) it was really just a matter of healing the bones. The bone is now healed and it’s not even a problem. So it just took while.”

--on how he feels about the way he’s moving
“Good, great. I’m a couple pounds heavier (about 260) than I was last year and I feel like I’m moving even better. So I think it’s just a combination of the mobility stuff I’ve done in the offseason and just getting stronger in my hips and just everywhere.”

--on appearing to be faster than he was previously
“I think so, absolutely. Last year, I didn’t play a lot of the spring. I was working on a few things. But they just kept me out for little issues. i wasn’t able to fully train for a while and that hasn’t happened this year. So I’ve been full go the whole time and I think that’s really helped.”

--on why he tries so hard to win the competitive team sprints
“Absolutely, I’m just working on my get off. I think that first step is really the most important thing when it comes to pass rushing. I’ve seen it improve in the years I’ve been here so I think that really helps.”

--on his level of hunger knowing it’s his last season
“I’m hungrier than ever. It’s the last ride, the last go around. Don’t hold anything back, don’t regret anything. It’s all out and this is really just the last opportunity.”

--on if he felt dejected last year after seemingly being on the verge of a breakout
“That’s exactly how I felt. In the Texas game I was able to really come alive there in the pass rush a little bit and get a couple sacks and I felt like I really had another half in me and was able to really just, like you said, really explode and find my own there. Right when I was feeling I was about to do that, I had to sit it out. So yeah, it was tough.”

--on if he regrets playing in that game and potentially coming back to soon
“No, I don’t think so. I like to think that it was a really close game and I was able to come up with a couple big plays at the end of the half, maybe even preventing them from scoring at the last drive of the half. So in my head, I like to think I was a factor in that win.”

--on if he thought he would be out for the season after the Texas game
“I was thinking maybe two or three weeks. They were telling me if everything went well, maybe I would be able to play in two or three weeks and then at that point, I had waited three weeks and it was just another week, another week, we have to keep X-raying it and it dragged on and I ended up missing the whole season.”

--on if he thought he’d return for the second half of the Texas game
“Absolutely. I was feeling a lot of pain but those couple seconds in between snaps it just kind of goes away and then it’ll come back. So after that drive, I was like yeah it hurts. I have to go check it out again, maybe adjust things because I had a different shoe for that game, I had to get a little bit more space around the toe. So I went up tot he locker room and they called it for me. I was begging for them to let me play but they wouldn’t.”

--on if he had any regret about playing in the Arizona State game
“We had talked to quite a few doctors at that point and basically what they told us was my toe wasn’t going to heal 100 percent, either way, for another solid two months. So they said, you know, at this point, if you go out and play now, it’s not going to be any different than if you play three weeks from now. So you might as well just give it a shot.”

--on if delaying his return could have meant playing in the bowl game
“Maybe that would have been a possibility and I definitely would have liked that, but I took the shot and did what the doctors told me to and it didn’t work out.”

--on goals for the year
“First and foremost, I want to win. I think everybody will tell you, our ultimate goal is winning a national championship. We need to take that next step and make the playoffs and be able to win in the big games like that. So that’s first and foremost.

--on individual goals
“I want nothing more for myself than to be on that All-American wall and I think that’s something that I should be able to do this year, just stay healthy and just keep doing what I’m doing.”

--on Christian Rector filling in for him and now playing alongside him
“Rector did a great job filling in that spot and he hadn’t even done it. So for him to be able to move from his normal 3-tech position out to a Predator and play that, it was impressive. He did a great job there and I think we’re going to be able at times both play on the edges and be able to play at the same time there on the edge. He’s doing great job at 3-technique, he’s a really versatile player. So I’m really looking forward to playing with him more.”

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Football They Said It: Clancy Pendergast

DC CLANCY PENDERGAST
--on what he’s seen from Talanoa Hufanga
“He’s been very active, he’s getting a real feel for what we’re trying to do defensively. We want to keep focusing on continuing to get him to communicate better, but I’m glad he’s here and getting this spring ball in, for sure.”

--on whether his early success is more the result of his natural playmaking or him already grasping the defense
“It’s a combination of both. I think he’s feeling his way somewhat, but if you look at his tape from high school, he had a really good nose for the football, played with really good instincts and you see it showing up now. We just got to get him saying the correct things when he’s out there, but he does play sideline to sideline.”

--on if Hufanga is further along than a typical freshman
“He is. We’re trying to narrow down hopefully between now and fall camp who we’re going to have next to Marvell. It’s important that that piece plays together, those two safeties and maybe the safety with the combination of the nickel back all playing together, but obviously we’re going to let It play itself out.”

--on how Ykili Ross has performed
“He’s done a nice job, he’s playing two positions, the nickel back and the safety. He’s made a lot of progress. I think there’s certain things he needs to continue to get better on and I think these last few practices, he’s really going to focus on those things. We had a good conversation earlier today about the things he needed to work on and I’m excited to see how he’s going to do finishing up spring.”

--on what Ross needs to work on
“I think to fill in that role, we need somebody to fill in with Marvell or he can get comfortable playing with that guy on more of a consistent basis. But you talk about YK, you talk about Bubba (Bolden), you talk about Isaiah (Pola-Mao) who is doing a nice job. Isaiah just can’t do everything because he’s coming off shoulder surgery, but in terms of his assignments and his communication when he’s in there, he’s pretty spot on.”

--on how Bolden is faring
“Bubba is up and down; he has good days, he has bad days. I think he had a good day today, he just needs to be more consistent and that’s going to come with playing.”

--on the competition at weakside (inside) linebacker
“John (Houston) started almost every game for us last year and I thought he really played well down the stretch. We’re working Levi in there a lot and also working Levi as an edge rusher on third down, so we’re trying to find a way to get Levi on the field so at times we can have our best 11 out there because he is clearly one of the most athletic guys that we have.”

--on who has been a vocal leader for the defense this spring
“Cam Smith has really taken on that leadership role, I think Iman Marshall has taken more of a leadership role and what he’s done, now that he’s a senior he kind of fills that. Porter, he leads by example, but you hear him more and Marvell has really stepped up his game from that standpoint.”

--on Marshall’s progress
“He really has, we’ve had some really good conversations since the season ended. I think he knows he needs to practice better. Some of his practice habits were based on injury and fighting through things, but he has got to continue to practice at a high level so he can play at a high level and if you look at the way he played against Ohio State, he practiced really well in the preparation for that bowl game and I think he was able to feel that difference because we really pushed him and he knows he has to do that to have the type of year that he wants to have and that we need to have as a defense out of him.”

--on which of the true freshman have stood out
“Talanoa has done a very nice job at the safety position. I would say Kana’i (Mauga) has done the best job of any of the young guys.”

--on what’s impressed him about Mauga
“Kana’i is very consistent; he’s a conscientious player. He does things the right way most of the time and if he makes a mistake, he recognizes it. He plays with really good pad level and has really good foot quickness. He’s a good enough athlete to play behind the ball or up on the line of scrimmage, so he gives us flexibility. We have to leave him in one spot right now, but I think as you see his career progress, he has got the talent to play as a stack linebacker and that’s a unique ability to have to be able to do both; but I think he has that ability.”

--on if he liked what he got out of Jordan Iosefa this spring while he was available
“Most definitely. I think he’s suited once again to be one of our top 11 guys, so we go to find a way to get him on the field. He’s probably more of a natural stack inside linebacker, but he can play outside and he’s got a really good knack for what we’re doing defensively so that’s probably where he will play most of his snaps next year.”

--on whether Mauga or Hufanga has surprised him
“Kana’i, definitely, just because we had very limited tape on him and we really got to look at him in camp and that’s where coach Nansen brought him to us and brought us to the attention of his ability. But I would say he would be the most (surprising). It’s a good young group, a guy like Jay Tufele, who redshirted last year, has probably made more progress than anybody even though he’s been here for a year, he is a freshman. So it’s a fun group to work with.”

--on Tufele’s improvement
“Jay is a disruptive force and he is a guy that a lot of people are going to hear about this year, I believe. I’ve seen a big jump in his technique, I’ve seen a big jump in him knowing what we’re doing defensively. He’s playing at a very fast pace right now. He’s not having to think very much. There’s very few mental errors. So he’s been very active for us. He’s gotten more reps because (Brandon) Pili’s been injured the last couple practices, so that’s really benefited him and benefited us as a defense, to get him out there. He’s a 300-pound kid that could really move. He’s got a big motor and (he’s) very strong.”

--on Christian Rector moving from Predator to a down lineman
“He’s got unique ability; he does a really nice job of feeling blocks. He’s slippery inside, he played outside this week for us in some situations but once again he’s going to give us that flexibility where we can use him in some speed rush packages on third down when we want to get our fast guys out there and also inside and outside. He’s kind of a jack of all trades for us.”

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Football Quick Hits/Footnotes - Practice 10 (4/3)

USC was in shells and shorts Tuesday. Here's a rundown of the news:

LB Jordan Iosefa suffered a knee injury and did not finish practice. Clay Helton characterized it as a twist and said it doesn't seem to be severe.

OL Chuma Edoga was pulled because of lower back pain.

DT Brandon Pili (ankle) and C Brett Neilon (ankle) remained out.

WRs Michael Pittman (shoulder), Josh Imatorbhebhe (head) and Randal Grimes (groin) were out of non-contact jerseys.

Trevon Sidney and Tyler Vaughns claimed today's kick return reps.

Impressions from practice:
It's clear that Marlon Tuipulotu is working hard in his rehab. It also seems to be important to him to remain connected to the team, which isn't always clear with players who are out for an extended period. Tuipulotu is always present, and today he ran wind sprints on Howard Jones that were in conjunction with his teammates, who ran on Brian Kennedy Field.

Marvell Tell, who by all accounts is having a good spring, broke up another pass today. I believe he's had more of those of late. USC needs its safeties to get their hands on more balls this season and ultimately intercept them. Tell, perhaps, is building toward that.

Jack Sears threw a pretty ball to the deep middle that Imatorbhebhe couldn't hang onto. Chase Williams did a good job in coverage, but it's a play Imatorbhebhe, with his leaping ability and athleticism, eventually needs to make. I asked Tee Martin about Imatorbhebhe today and he essentially said the next step for him is to dominate on a regular basis. That would seem to be a lofty goal, but more consistent performance is not. Imatorbhebhe had an excellent second week of spring ball and has been pretty quiet otherwise. There's a lot of talent in there that for whatever reason doesn't surface regularly.

Matt Fink threw a couple of balls Tuesday that ended up in no man's land. I'm talking several yards away from the closest person. Other notable reps for Fink included a first down to Vaughns and a sack by Porter Gustin in which Fink just held the ball for too long. I wasn't charting every pass but Fink might have completed a higher percentage than Sears. It was just very uneven play from both of them.

Sears had a nice play-action rollout where he hit Vaughns for a first down and he completed another strong throw over the middle to Pittman. But he finished practice on a low. One pass was batted at the line of scrimmage by Christian Rector. Another was nearly picked off by Ajene Harris, this after evading a sack, as Sears unleashed a dangerous heave down the field. His final rep was a pass to Josh Falo that was a bit high and behind the 6-6 tight end, prompting Falo to put up a hand and tip the ball to C.J. Pollard for an INT. He was also sacked by Cam Smith, which is a pretty rare occurrence.

Vavae Malepeai had another strong practice. The play that stood out to me most was a downfield reception in the middle of the field. He's always appeared to run good routes and possess good hands, we just haven't seen him utilized in this fashion much. Maybe that will change moving forward.

Velus Jones was given a run for his money today. Biggie Marshall slapped away one of his targets and Harris ran him off another pass. Harris later added a pass break-up while working against Imatorbhebhe.

Final notes:
Helton offered some final thoughts on the QBs from Saturday's scrimmage: He liked where their eyes were going but said they needed to get the ball out quicker. Their anticipation isn't there yet in terms of throwing guys open and not just waiting for them to get open.

Helton conceded the two quarterbacks have "hit a wall," as Bryan Ellis initially stated. Helton is hopeful that will turn around now that offensive installation is complete.

Helton and Martin lamented the execution of deep balls. Sears has completed a low percentage while Fink doesn't really attempt them. I almost wonder if they need to try fewer of them and sort of build up to that point with more intermediate throws. That's not the plan, however, as the two coaches made it clear they intend to rep it more.

Another area in which the two agree: Velus is having a big spring. Helton noted he's running routes better and with more control, which I wholeheartedly agree with. Martin said Velus is learning to catch the ball coming out of more routes than simply deep ones that often require an over-the-shoulder grab. I too think Velus has been solid. Not sure that I've seen him make a leap. But he's certainly growing.

USC continues to incorporate a little more under center and heavy packages (multiple backs/tight ends) into its offense.

I asked about the competition at left tackle and got the impression that Austin Jackson holds an edge, although probably not a sizable one. Helton pointed out that Jackson's picking up twists that he struggled with a year ago, while Martin plainly said Jackson has been "phenomenal." Still, Helton reiterated the competition will go into fall. The two have been alternating practices with the first team throughout spring. Jackson was with the ones today and that was highlighted by him pancaking Gustin on one particular rep.

I asked a follow up about Johnston, who hasn't been spoken of much over the past year despite consistently being in the thick of things. Helton lauded his athleticism as well as his ability to play on either side. He might be USC's most versatile tackle in that regard.

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USC's next practice is Thursday. There are only five remaining.

I have a few lengthy interviews to transcribe with Aca'Cedric Ware, Michael Pittman and Jack Sears. Please forgive me if I don't get to them immediately. Have some things I need to tend to at home and Swanson, who typically assists in this endeavor, is celebrating his birthday. (Happy Birthday, Swanson!).

We have video interviews with Tee Martin, who offered his impressions of the offense thus far, and Bryan Ellis, who sized up the quarterbacks. Plus, we spoke with Matt Fink and Velus Jones. At the very least, I believe you'll find the first two interviews worthwhile.

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