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We’ve said all along that even though we questioned LR’s defenses and his ability to fix that side of the ball, that we’d always trust his offenses, and especially, his decisions when it comes to which QB’s to recruit/play.

What is your trust level in him now to make the right decisions when it comes to recruiting QB’s (and even developing QB’s)? Wouldn’t any blind faith that you have in him as a QB Whisperer be fairly outdated at this point?

If we just take the three years sample size at USC, I’d grade him as follows:

HS Recruiting: D (being generous)
- Malachi Nelson was a complete misevaluation on every dimension, and cost us Nico Iamaleava (or Aidan Chiles).
- Failed to recruit a HS QB last year after striking out on Raiola and Lagway, which is also hard to wrap my mind around (sure it’s hard to stack 5-stars, but how do you not get a depth 4-star type?)
- Put all of his eggs in the basket of Julian Lewis this year, despite clear signals that the guy wants to be anywhere but USC and has shown major culture risk.

QB Development: B
- It’s only a B because Caleb went from a spot starter in year 1 at OU to a Heisman winner in year 2 at USC. But he got worse (or at the very least, didn’t improve) between Soph and Junior seasons. But OK, he was so good already that how much better could he have really gotten? Based on the fact that he won the Heisman, this has to be an A by default, though I’m pretty sure Caleb would have been a superstar in about 50 other programs if not more.
- Moss - this is his third year in the program and Lincoln based the entire season on his evaluation of Miller in practices. It’s clear that Moss hasn’t shown any sort of development over the course of this season. So for the misevaluation in thinking Miller was good enough, or for the lack of development in Miller, this deserves a D, if not an F, given this position is supposed to be LR’s speciality and the lack of production here or the lack of fit with how LR wants to run his offense has landed us with a 4-5 record.

So all in all - can you really honestly say at this point that you trust LR when it comes to making decisions about his QB? And please don’t cite Oklahoma stats from seven years ago…I don’t know who that coach was, but it’s not the one who is currently running this program.

C'mon Ryan and all the other Lincoln apologists. GITT and tell us why the state of the football program is acceptable

Tell us that we are only 4 plays away from being 7-0. Tell us that Lincoln inherited a mess and needs more time. Tell us the recruiting has not been up to par because of Pre-riley issues, tell us whatever you want to justify this pile of shit.

Sorry to say, but we were better under Helton. $100M and three years later and we are still a hot mess of garbage.
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My notes on SC's 77-51 win over UT Chattanooga

The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga (UTC) was founded in 1886 as private and racially exclusive Chattanooga University, which merged in 1889 with Grant Memorial University (now Tennessee Wesleyan) becoming the Chattanooga campus of U.S. Grant Memorial University. In 1907, name change to the University of Chattanooga, which in 1969 joined the UT system becoming the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga.

UTC occupies 321 urban acres, enrolls 11,638 (10,239 undergrad), $147M endowment, USN&WR No. 315 public school

Famous alumni include Actors Hugh Beaumont (Ward Cleaver), Dennis Haskins (Mr. Belding -Saved by the Bell), Leslie Jordan (Emmy winner, comedian, singer), Chemist Irvine Grote inventor of active ingredient in Rolaids & Bufferin, NFL HOFer Terrell Owens, AFL All-Star Boston Patriot Charlie Long, NY Knick Gerald Wilkins (brother of Dominique)

UTC Athletics: NCAA Div I, Southern Conference (The Citadel, ETSU, Furman, Mercer, UNC Greenville, Samford, VMI, Wofford, WCU). 7 NCAA Titles: 6 Women’s Tennis, 1977 Men’s Basketball D2 National Championship. 26 NCAA individual titles: 19 Women’s Tennis, 6 Wrestling, Men’s Tennis

Colors – Navy & old gold, Nickname – Mocs (since 1996, was Moccasins), fight song - Fight Chattanooga, Mascot – a water moccasin in 1920’s, a moccasin shoe in 1960’s-70’s, Chief Moccanooga until 1996, now Scrappy the Moc, dressed as a RR engineer, a reference to Chattanooga’s history as a RR hub and the song Chattanooga Choo Choo

Basketball started 1915 (1443-1161, .554), 1977 (Div 2) National Champions, 1976 runner-up, 2 Final Fours, 2 Elite Eights, 4 Sweet Sixteen’s, 17 NCAA appearances (last 2022), 14 Conf. championships, 12 conf. tournament championships. 4 NBA draft picks (Russ Schoene (1982 Rd 2), Willie White (1984 Rd 2), Gerald Wilkins (1985 Rd 2), Johnny Taylor (1997 Rd 1)). UDFA Matt Ryan 2020, currently playing in NBA.

Winningest coaches: Mack McCarthy 243-122, .666, John Shulman 145-146, .498, Ron Shumate 139-61, .695

Current - Dan Earl (3rd season) 39-29, .574

Currently: 0-0, first game of season for both teams

All-time: SC leads 1-0, 2008 Puerto Rico Tip-off 73-46 W (Taj Gibson 17 pts, 15 rebs, 5 blks, Dwight Lewis 16 pts, DeMar DeRozan 13 pts, Daniel Hackett 10 pts, 9 assts, Leonard Washington 9 pts, 12 rebs)

UTC NET n/a, KenPom 151, SC NET n/a, KenPom 44

UTC Scores: 78.2 ppg (+6.6), 46.6% FG, 35.9% 3FG, 10.6 3’s/g, 74.5% FT. Rebounds 36.5 pg (+2.2), Assists 13.5 pg, TOs 11.9 pg (-1.5), Steals 6.3 pg, Blks 3.7 pg

UTC Leaders (last season):

UTC Scoring
: Honor Huff 17.4 ppg (43.4% FG, 38% 3FG, 82.8% FT), Trey Bonham 16.0 ppg (48.4% FG, 41.3% 3FG. 84% FT).

UTC Rebounding: Bonham 5.0, Assists –Bonham 3.6, Huff 2.6; Steals – Bonham 2.4 stpg, Huff 1.7, Blks – n/a

SC scoring (last season N/A – all new team)

SC Leaders (from last season’s schools)

user generatedPregame

I am the only one with a Muss Bus T-shirt in the Founder’s Room. Assistant Coach Todd Lee is guest speaker. Lee’s relationship with Muss spans 30+ yrs. He was on his Rapid City Thrillers staff from 1992-94 after 3 yrs as asst to legendary USD coach Hank Egan, who was Muss’ coach with the Toreros. He next was an asst coach at CSUB, UCI, head coach at Kentucky Wesleyan, asst at GCU and then head coach of the South Dakota Coyotes (2-time Summit League COY and finalist for National COY) for 4 yrs. In 2023 joined Muss’ Arkansas staff and followed him to SC.

Lee provided a scout on UTC- Mocs won 21 games last season, beat Louisville in opener, shoot a ton of 3’s and run a Princeton offense with a lot of backdoor action. PG Bonham is the pre-season conference POY pick and shooting guard Hoff led the conference in scoring last season and attempted 9 threes/game. UTC is picked 2nd in the Southern Conference.

Muss has set a goal of 5 made 3s against the Mocs who over the last 5 yrs have been top 3 in the nation in 3-pt attempts. In a lighter moment, Lee tells the crowd that if they want to have some fun to watch Muss’ expression any time the Mocs sink a 3, he lives or dies with every possession haha. The way to lose to a mid-major school is to give up 3’s, so they are going to try to take away the 3-pt game. They will also attempt to ‘pressure the QB’ in the Princeton offense and stop their ability to play make with their backdoor cuts.

Lee says that Muss’ teams have consistently been Top 5 in FTA’s (free throw attempts) and will drive to the rim to pick up fouls and get to the line. This is a hallmark of his teams. They had 33 FTAs in the Gonzaga exhibition.

They recognize that their disadvantage is lack of a true center. Their advantage is the size and length of the guards. They think they can post up against the small Moc guards and defend the 3 effectively.

SC will use the same starters as the Gonzaga game, with the possible exception of Terrence Williams II. T-Will is having back spasms and is a game-time decision.

The Game

On the way to the arena a guy asks where I got the shirt, I replied ‘USCBasketball.com’ (free endorsement -hah) and he says ‘I know, I write the practice reports for the site.’ I say ‘are you Sky Lam” and he says he is (Looking happy or surprised to be recognized for his work). Entering the arena, the crowd is a very small, 3294 announced, unfortunately a typical SC crowd for a bball game during football season vs a non-marquee team. This needs to change when the B1G schools come visit us. We can’t let it be their home game!

Very few media are present and no NBA scouts (although 22 scouts have reportedly shown up at SC practices in Muss’ time). Former PG Jaque Hill is here. I spy Mama Agbo (who will be happy that Chibuzo was SC’s top scorer) and T.O. behind the Mocs bench.

After a well done hype video, featuring a real Muss Bus, the man himself enters.

SC sends out a starting line-up of:

G Desmond Claude (Xavier)
G Chibuzo Agbo (Boise St)
F Jalen Shelley for T-Will (FR out of Little Elm, TX)
F Saint Thomas (Northern Colo)
C Josh Cohen (UMass)

After the first game nerves, the teams settled down to play and I am finding myself buying into this team and its frenetic head coach. These guys go hard all of the time, they don’t take plays off and they play a stifling brand of team defense (forced 4 shot clock violations). They play D for every second of every possession! They communicate, keep their hands up, switch on screens, they get in the face of shooters. I absolutely love it. This team dubbed by Muss as ‘sewer rats’ is ready to scrape and claw their way to relevance in the B1G and nationally. I am already thinking Big Dance – too soon?

Offensively, this team of players who were “the guy” at their previous schools plays with a single purpose and without ego. They share the ball freely, getting 21 assists in this game. They all just want to win, get to post-season and advance.

Scoring was balanced with 7 players scoring at least 8 pts, and Agbo 14 (4-9 3FGs) and Matt Knowling 13 (off the bench with 6-6 FGs), in double figures. Fun fact: Knowling (Yale) and Clark Slajchert (Penn) are the first Ivy leaguers Muss has ever recruited, and he was inspired by the success Lindsay Gottlieb had with her Ivy League “nerds” McKenzie Forbes (Harvard), Kayla Padilla (Penn), Kaitlyn Davis (Columbia).

SC holds a 32-22 half-time lead. UTC shot 8-27 FG (29.6%), 2-15 3FG (13.3%) – on track to meet Muss’ goal! 4-4 FT (100%). SC shot 13-30 FG (43.3%), 3-12 3FG (25%), 3-3 FT (100%).

In the 2nd half SC stretched its lead and shut down UTC’s shooters. Trey Bonham was held to 6 pts (1-10 FG, 0-5 3FG, 4-4 FT). Honor Huff hit 5 threes for a game high 17 pts but it took 15 shots. Still, great perimeter defense (6-34 on 3s,17.6%). UTC shot 25.9% FG in the 2nd half to finish at 27.8% for the game.

SC turned up their offense and shot 55.9% FG to finish the game 32-64 FG (50%). The strange thing is that SC only shot 7 FTs for the game (5-7, 71.4%) surely the lowest mark of any game Muss has coached. So that is one thing to work on, the other would be rebounding, as the Mocs were able to grab 13 offensive rebs, which led to 11 second chance points.

After playing an up-tempo game against the Zags and scoring 96 pts, SC had 0 fastbreak pts and scored 77 pts in the 77-51 victory. They did force 16 TOs while committing only 9. They dominated in the paint with 34 pts to 16 for UTC and the roster depth showed with a whopping 41 bench pts, 30 more than the Mocs.

Replying to a “we want Hornery chant” from Harry’s closest friends haha, Muss summoned the new crowd favorite for a 4 min run. He knocked down a 3-ptr and grabbed a reb.

Three players saw their first collegiate action. Wesley Yates, UW xfer, showed out. Plays with confidence and scores from all three levels, despite a bit of a quirky looking shot. He played 21 min. scoring 9 pts (4-8 FG, 1-4 3FG), with 3 rebs, 3 asst, 2 stls. Jalen Shelley got the start, but after shooting 0-3 played only 9 minutes. Isaiah Elohim was impressive scoring 8 pts (4-6 FG) and grabbing 3 rebs in 13 min. These 3 players along with the injured Kevin Patton are the only sure returners next season. Desmond Claude has another year of eligibility but has a choice on whether to opt into the draft.

This game showed how Muss wants his team to play and they will only get better, especially after T-Will returns to the line-up.

Next up: Idaho State Bengals from the Big Sky Conference on Thursday at 7pm at Galen Center. The Bengals (0-1) are coming off a 55-48 loss to ASU in Tempe.

Fight On! Beat the Bengals!

Time Out Explanation

Was there an explanation of the referees calling a long timeout on our drive that ended on the 2 yard line? 2nd and goal from the 2 yard line, ran the ball downfield on consecutive runs, UW D beat and then a TV timeout? After timeout, Riley calls a stupid pass play that is incomplete, a pitch running play on 3rd and Woody gets stuffed on 4th. We had all the momentum and that TO stopped us from taking the lead.

It would be very instructive…

to know how much influence Coach Entz (two time FCS Champion) has during a game. Or, coming up with a game plan beforehand. I know he coaches LB’s; however, he has a lot of head coaching experience and I am sure he has his thoughts during the game. I would like to know what they are. RUN, run, run the damn ball. Establish the run against the worst run D in the B1G. If you look at how the OL was dominating in the second half, this could have been a game we blow them out. Not impossible with the better decision making by coach LR. My .02

Guess the Score Standings through nine weeks

Our Week 9 winner is @Clay Helton with a score of 2! Next best were @JetLaggMatt , @Bigtrojan78, @SC55OU19, and @usc7137 with a score of 13.

Here are the updates standings through nine weeks. Remember, after Week 4 we drop each person’s two worst scores from the average provided they have participated all four weeks (or drop one score if a week has been missed). The bold scores are the scores that have been dropped.

remc (4, 15, 12, 4, 20, 17, 9, 7, 19 )AVG: 9.714
Bed-NASH (30, 16, 12, 4, 19, 16, 13, 0, 16 )AVG: 11
JetLaggMatt (8, 21, 11, 4, 37, 8, 37, 14, 13 )AVG: 11.285
trojan_a_1 (23, 20, 16, 7, 18, 9, 13, 1, 17 )AVG: 11.571
jcbraam (11, 21, 15, 8, 20, 22, 10, 9, 16 )AVG: 12.714
Larr212121 (16, 29, 12, 12, 22, 5, 14, 9, 24 )AVG: 12.857
Bigtrojan78 (11, 26, 14, 4, 19, 15, 20, 14, 13 )AVG: 12.857
tentm (16, 20, 22, 5, 22, 9, 17, 8, 16 )AVG: 13
SCMATT (3, 14, 15, 11, 50, X, 20, 10, 20 )AVG: 13.285
SC55OU19 (18, 17, 15, 8, 19, 14, 16, 11, 13 )AVG: 13.428
The Neutral Observer (3, 20, 23, 10, 15, 15, 13, 19, 35 )AVG: 13.571
Darcy Bug (11, 20, 16, 11, 22, 17, 16, 10, 14 )AVG: 13.571
MrSC (11, 17, 21, 7, 33, 12, 23, 14, 17 )AVG: 14.142
uclowns (4, 23, 22, 7, 37, 14, 34, 9, 24 )AVG: 14.714
AlpineTrojan1 (15, 27, 12, 18, 19, 16, 10, 18, 14 )AVG: 14.714
Kdub8791 (11, 28, 33, 4, 26, 12, X, 7, 19 )AVG: 15.285
Jack53 (19, 14, 22, 8, 29, 17, 9, X, 18 )AVG: 15.285
187Bruins (21, 17, 12, 15, 20, 19, 24, 8, 16 )AVG: 15.285
charmac (15, 24, 25, 8, 29, 16, 17, 15, 14 )AVG: 15.571
RudyTheTrojan (11, 18, 19, X, 26, 24, 17, 4, 17 ) AVG: 15.714
ddones10 (25, 23, 18, 4, 16, 11, 16, X, 23 )AVG: 15.857
prime88 (40, 28, 12, 9, 29, 16, 23, 4, 21 )AVG: 16.142
cj (7, 17, 29, 11, 23, 19, 34, 18, 20 )AVG: 16.428
Clay Helton (43, 17, 15, X, 29, 15, 22, 15, 2 )AVG: 16.428
Sc-raza (22, 31, 22, 8, 19, 12, 20, 14, 24 )AVG: 16.714
Ayedoc (29, 22, 23, 7, 26, 20, 19, 9, 17 )AVG: 16.714
555heiden (12, 10, 19, 17, 30, 23, 21, X, 17 ) AVG: 17
HI50trojan (8, 18, 21, 16, 20, X, 21, X, 16 )AVG: 17.142
FilltheColi (18, 27, 15, 12, 30, 17, 6, X, X )AVG: 17.857
msterlingrundy (25, 17, 29, 11, 25, 11, X, 7, X )AVG: 17.857
tlevyn (16, 17, X, 11, 22, 37, 34, 11, 17 )AVG: 18.285
Eight three (16, 19, 22, 15, 22, 24, 27, X, 14 )AVG: 18.857
usc7137 (24, 21, X, 14, 22, 11, 27, X, 13 )AVG: 18.857
Kylerkeener (56, 23, 19, 14, 13, 22, 44, 27, 16 )AVG: 19.142
sdthomas (26, 25, 23, 15, 15, X, 25, 21, 15 )AVG: 19.857
seattledoc (29, 29, 22, 10, 30, 17, 20, 29, 14 )AVG: 20.142
sbeanes (22, 21, 19, 7, 30, 18, 31, X, X )AVG: 21.142
cramwetzel (30, 21, 34, 12, 31, 24, 35, 8, 29 )AVG: 22.142
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ericsanford (18, 21, 22, 7, X, 17, X, X, X )
jogonzalnt (14, 20, 16, 11, 26, X, X, X, X )
blown55 (26, 22, 30, 2, X, X, X, X, X )
robodoc23 (X, X, 33, X, X, X, X, X, X )
JG911 (X, X, 20, X, X, X, X, X, X )
Trojan Ace (24, 16, X, 6, X, X, X, X, X )
usc310 (X, X, 18, X, X, X, X, X, X )
jerrybed (9,X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X )
theealbs (X, X, 15, X, X, X, X, X, X )
trojan_power (12,X, X, X, X, 18, X, X, 17 )
engeo11 (X,17, X, X, X, X, X, X, X )
tomj85 (X, 29, X, X, X, X, X, X, X )
Trojan OG (19,X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X )
having (20, X, 17, X, X, X, X, X, X )
sca88 (21,X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X )
SCtrojan2k2 (22,X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X )
consciousBE (30,X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X )
Bbcoolb (26, 14, 29, 4, 29, X, X, X, X )
JealouSC (X,31, X, X, X, X, X, X, X )
jomolina (32,X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X )
FreeReggieBush (24,X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X )
TrojanGiftHorse (11, X, 40, X, X, X, X, X, X )
cwmagdog (X, X, X, X, X, 39, X, X, X )
CRDUSC93 (27, 13, 26, X, X, X, X, X, X )
nfoster1617 (26, 23, 22, X, X, X, X, X, X )
dbcraig (31,18, X, X, 30, X, X, X, X )
highnoon2 (29, X, 26, 32, X, X, X, 13, 16 )
rhinsd (X, X, X, X, X, 23, X, X, X )
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Football PFF grades/snap counts/stats from USC-Washington

Offensive snap counts (81 total plays):

QB Miller Moss 81, LT Elijah Paige 81, LG Emmanuel Pregnon 81, C Jonah Monheim 81, RG Alani Noa 81, RT Mason Murphy 81, RB Woody Marks 69, WR Zachariah Branch 62, TE Lake McRee 61, WR Kyron Hudson 55, WR Ja'Kobi Lane 39, WR Makai Lemon 39, WR Duce Robinson 27, WR Kyle Ford 27, TE Walker Lyons 12, RB Quinten Joyner 11, TE Kade Eldridge 3.

Top-graded offensive players:

1. WR Zachariah Branch 71.1
2. RB Woody Marks 66.9
3. C Jonah Monheim 66.9
4. LT Elijah Paige 65.6
5. WR Makai Lemon 65.4
6. RB Quinten Joyner 65.1
7. WR Ja'Kobi Lane 64.2
8. LG Emmanuel Pregnon 63.3
9. TE Walker Lyons 60.3
10. RG Alani Noa 57.1

Offensive stats and analytics:

-Miller Moss was 30 of 50 for 293 yards, 2 TDs and a career-worst 3 INTs. Yes, one of those was a no-risk end-of-half heave and one went off Kyle Ford's fingers (but was off the mark). That said, he also could have had 4 INTs if the Washington defensive linemen held onto the ball thrown at his chest. Here's what Lincoln Riley said about Moss' performance:

"I thought he played pretty well in the first half, honestly. I know he ended up with two interceptions -- one's on a Hail Mary play and another is on a perfectly-thrown ball that gets just, you know, volleyball-tipped up in the air. So I thought he was pretty good in the first half," Riley said. "I thought he had a couple of loose decisions in the second half -- the third down one was the big one obviously that hurt us. I thought he made a lot of plays with his feet, some really nice escape, scramble plays in the pocket. I thought he played good. Obviously, the quarterback position is defined by making big plays, which he made a lot of 'em. I thought he gave our guys chances to make a few more plays that we need to make. But obviously we can't turn the ball over, and that was the biggest thing."

-Moss was again not very successful throwing downfield as he finished just 2 of 6 for 58 yards, 1 TD (the fourth down dart to Makai Lemon) and 1 INT. Of his 50 passing attempts, 24 came within 10 yards or behind the line of scrimmage. He had an average depth of target of 9.4 yards.

-USC's only allowed 7 pressures and 0 sacks -- a strong performance overall. Give Josh Henson credit for the improvement of that unit over the course of the season. Elijah Paige had 2 pressures, Emmanuel Pregnon had 2 and the other starters gave up 1 each. Mason Murphy was flagged for 4 penalties, though.

-Zachariah Branch had a career-high 102 receiving yards on 6 catches (previous career-high was 98 yards on 6 catches at Michigan).

-Makai Lemon was the most-targeted wideout with 9 targets (8 receptions for 70 yards). Branch hauled in 6 of his 8 targets, Woody Marks caught all 7 of his targets for 26 yards, Kyron Hudson caught 1 of his 5 targets for 19 yards (but it was a helluva grab), Duce Robinson caught 1 of his 5 targets for 5 yards, Ja'Kobi Lane caught 3 of his 5 targets for 47 yards, Lake McRee caught 3 of his 4 targets for 15 yards and Kyle Ford caught 1 of 2 targets for a 9-yard TD.

-Lemon leads USC with 448 receiving yards (33 catches, 3 TDs) and Branch is close behind with 404 yards (35 catches, 0 TDs) followed by Lane (32-368-5) and Hudson (27-322-2).

-Again, Robinson was minimally involved. He was only on the field for 10 passing plays.

-Woody Marks rushed a season-high 22 times for 123 yards and 1 TD and he's up to 878 rushing yards (5.7 YPC) and 9 TDs while averaging 97.6 rushing yards per game. He had 47 yards after contact Saturday. Quinten Joyner had 24 yards after contact on just 6 carries (for 38 yards).
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